<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889</id><updated>2011-07-07T14:13:13.997-07:00</updated><category term='Santa Claus'/><category term='criminal'/><category term='anonymous'/><category term='libel'/><category term='spiritual'/><category term='law'/><category term='civil'/><category term='court'/><category term='Christmas'/><category term='missionary'/><category term='Sunday School'/><category term='Christmas tree'/><category term='Thailand'/><category term='mission'/><title type='text'>Libel Law in Thailand</title><subtitle type='html'>Just a regular guy who has had some unusual experiences in a rather esoteric area of Thai law.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>11</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-4237481999423236342</id><published>2009-10-05T22:38:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-10-06T00:12:05.361-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='anonymous'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Thailand'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='court'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spiritual'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='libel'/><title type='text'>What Difference Does it Make?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Probably the most frequent observation about the libel suits my son and I filed against the mission is summed up in an anonymous post from another blog: &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;"The letter [written by the mission] merely states an opinion. I have people say worse about me all of the time."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I don't doubt that people often say worse things about this anonymous poster than the mission said about my son and me. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;People can be very cruel in their speech. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Some of the people saying such things may even be Christians; malicious gossip, after all, is a fault that is not restricted to ungodly, unbelieving and unregenerate circles. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I'm even going to guess that some people, with some Christians among that number, say worse things about &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; than what was in that letter, too! &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;But, the issue is not whether Christians do gossip, or ought to gossip, or whether other Christians ought to object to it. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;That is a totally separate issue and one which entails a great deal of hypocrisy. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;To all our shame.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Actually, the letter was not "mere" gossip. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Neither did it merely state an opinion. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;It stated purported &lt;b&gt;facts&lt;/b&gt;; it never qualified its statements at all. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;It was totally devoid of any "it seems to me" or "IMHO" hedges. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Neither did it contain any reference to previous communications, such as "In answer to your questions about. . ." or "In compliance with your request for. . ." &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Opinion or fact, of course, is no more the issue than gossip. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I think the real issue lies in the implications of this anonymous person's observation: &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;"So what? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;What difference does it make if the mission wrote a letter about you – true or false, opinion or fact – and sent it to the Royal Thai Government, even if they did it a year after your resignation? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Who cares?"&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;That is &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; the question that plagued me! &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I did not know why the letter was written, what it was meant to accomplish or why the mission so staunchly defended it. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Over a period of almost two years, they sent their house counsel to Thailand several times; they had him spend time meeting pastors in the States; they hired attorneys in Thailand; spent money having English arbitration proposals translated into Thai; and more. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;All to what end? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I didn't know, but even someone as dense as I am could see that this was very, very important to them.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;So, convinced that they cared, and cared deeply, about the issue, I felt that maybe I would be wise to care, too. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;These were honorable men; they would never do something like this without a very good reason. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The mission leaders in America would never have defended the letter without a very good reason. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And, they would never withhold those very good reasons from me without a very good reason. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The letter was important enough to write, important enough to send to the Royal Thai Government, important enough to send me a copy, important enough to defend in court. . . and too important to explain to me! &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I confess: &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;That worried me. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And not a little, either. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I repeat: &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;I did not know what difference the letter made; but, I was operating on the deduction that it &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; make a difference.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I would have been very happy to learn that it made no difference at all. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The only ones who knew what difference it made, however, felt that it was too important to explain, and certainly too important to retract.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I know, I know. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;That doesn't sound very spiritual. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The obvious question for me is: &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;"Why didn't you just trust the Lord?" &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Well, inaction isn't necessarily the same thing as trusting the Lord. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Often, inaction is a symptom of &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; trusting Him! &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;On the other hand, I admit that I was fearful – afraid of what was going on, afraid of what was going to happen next, and why. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I guess we can trust the Lord when we are scared, too, though I won't press the point.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I am not proud, but ashamed, to admit that I was &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; fearful that I sought relief in the Thai court from things that my Christian brothers were doing to me and my family. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;That is why it was important to me. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Why was it important to the mission?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-4237481999423236342?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/4237481999423236342/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/10/what-difference-does-it-make_05.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/4237481999423236342'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/4237481999423236342'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/10/what-difference-does-it-make_05.html' title='What Difference Does it Make?'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-2412951244372770978</id><published>2009-09-18T00:11:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-18T00:11:19.280-07:00</updated><title type='text'>First Things First</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;In Thailand, no person is ever brought to court to answer charges against them until and unless a case has been established, based upon legal evidence, that would be sufficient to convict them if left unanswered.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In other words, people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;In practical terms, this means that you can't just accuse someone of libel and drag them into court.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;First, there is a series of hearings where the accuser is forced to make his case.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If there is no case, the accuser pays court costs and is himself open to counter suit by the person he accused.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is a good safeguard for the rights of the accused.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It's also a pretty good reason to avoid charging anyone with libel in the first place!&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;My son and I had filed our cases separately, so there were separate hearings for us.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;During these preliminary hearings, the mission did not have to answer anything; only my son and I did.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We tried to establish the truth of our allegations that the mission had libeled us in the letter they sent to the Royal Thai Government; the mission's (new) attorney's job was to show that the complaint was groundless.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is exactly as it ought to be; it is slow, it is difficult, it is stressful and it is fair to the accused.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;Time constraints and schedule conflicts conspired to drag things out to an almost unbearable degree.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The only thing worse than anticipating being on the stand was being on the stand!&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I am fairly conversant in Thai, but the mental strain of being under oath and having so much at stake made concentration difficult.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Questions were worded in such a way that, under the best of circumstances, they would have been hard to understand and answer. &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;At one point, for example, I was asked if one of the field chairmen had not resigned from the field as a result of conflicts with me.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This was news to me, so I said that wasn't true.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I started to explain in&amp;nbsp;more detail&amp;nbsp;and was interrupted by the judge:&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;You'll have a chance to testify about that if there is a trial.&amp;quot;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;If&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt; there is a trial?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;To say that I sweated through each and every session is to make it sound much easier than it really was.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The extra deodorant I slathered on before each session only ensured that my underarms were the only dry part of my body by the time I stepped down.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;Eventually, the judge ruled that my son's case should go to trial.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We felt that this might have a good effect on &lt;a href="http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/09/negotiations-fail.html"&gt;negotiations&lt;/a&gt;, which were going on during this time.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But, the mission was still not willing to settle.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Perhaps they were waiting to see if my case would also pass muster.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;When my case was also sent to trial, nothing changed.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;Keep in mind that a judge's finding of enough evidence for a trial is not the same thing as a conviction.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It only means that there is a case that needs to be answered; the presumption of innocence means that the court assumes the case can, indeed, be answered.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It looked like the mission was determined to see this through to the bitter end.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;   &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-2412951244372770978?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/2412951244372770978/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/09/first-things-first.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/2412951244372770978'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/2412951244372770978'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/09/first-things-first.html' title='First Things First'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-3066972699007643696</id><published>2009-09-15T00:40:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-15T00:40:16.099-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Odds and Ends</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;A number of people have asked about the dates of the events related on this blog.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Math was never my strong point, so I have left it to the reader to cipher it out for themselves.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In the entry called &lt;a href="http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/good-plan-goes-awry.html"&gt;A Good Plan Goes Awry&lt;/a&gt;, for instance, I mention that my affiliation with the missionary organization began in late 1978.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Twenty five years later, we parted company.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Giving the specific year would have required carrying more than one place, something that I do not do well.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Otherwise, it would have required remembering specific dates, something I do even less well.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;I have now taken the time to do the required math and research.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Here are the dates:&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;August 1978&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;began working as missionaries with the particular organization&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;August 2003&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ended our affiliation with the missionary organization&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;23 August 2004&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;- missionary organization wrote a letter to the Royal Thai Government that we considered to be libelous&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;1 June 2006&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;-&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the dispute between us and the missionary organization was settled&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;NB:&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Everything else happened somewhere during those dates!&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A note on confidentiality:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I am not using the names of anyone besides myself on this blog.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is by choice, not compulsion.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I have asked for a confidentiality agreement with the missionary organization, but they have declined to even answer me.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I do not believe they feel any obligation to maintain confidentiality regarding their dispute with me.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; But, that is not the subject of this blog.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;Finally, it seems that it is difficult to leave &lt;strong&gt;comments&lt;/strong&gt; on this blog.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Grrr.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If you would like to comment, but find the site too user beligerant, please feel free to email me (&lt;a href="mailto:libel.law.in.thailand@gmail.com"&gt;libel.law.in.thailand@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;)&amp;nbsp;and I will post your comment or answer your query in the blog itself.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I envision a FAQs entry one of these days, so your question may turn up there as well.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Please be assured that I will not reveal your identity without your permission.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;More soon, I promise.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-3066972699007643696?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/3066972699007643696/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/09/odds-and-ends.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/3066972699007643696'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/3066972699007643696'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/09/odds-and-ends.html' title='Odds and Ends'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-3804674531380549809</id><published>2009-09-01T02:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-17T23:17:47.014-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Negotiations Fail</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Although we were opposed to binding arbitration, we were not opposed to negotiation, mediation or some kind of talks, regardless of the label.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In fact, we had only resorted to a law suit because there was no other way to entice the mission to talk to us. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;The mission's usual way of dealing with people who had grievances was to pronounce them "unreasonable" and ignore them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So far, that is what had happened.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now that criminal libel charges had been filed, we guessed that, at some stage, the mission would talk to us before it went to trial.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We were right.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Their local attorney and four missionaries came to our attorney's office to talk.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My son and our attorney were there.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;In order to emphasize the seriousness with which he viewed the situation, my son asked for a large settlement in order to drop charges.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He didn't expect to get as much as he asked for, but he didn't expect to get the reaction from the mission's attorney that he got, either:&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"This isn't America.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;People that ask for large settlements in Thailand get shot."&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;The other missionaries, all but one of whom spoke Thai, sat in stony silence.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Not one of them raised his voice in protest.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My son did, of course, and did so in no uncertain terms.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The first attempt at negotiation ended without any progress being made.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;The mission dismissed their attorney's comments as "an explanation of cultural differences."&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Presumably they found nothing objectionable about it, but they got a new attorney anyway, "for your [our] sake."&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I had offered to go to America to meet with mediators, but the mission wasn't interested in that unless we first dropped all charges.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Otherwise, their house counsel informed me, I would just walk out of any meeting that didn't go my way.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Instead, he came to Thailand.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Again, we met at our attorney's office to try to work things out.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I suggested that we take a couple of statements from their letter and compare it to other letters they had written and see how they lined up.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They declined to do so, pleading a lack of time.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They gathered up their their papers and walked out, ending the meeting.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Provincial courts in Thailand have traditionally had a role as mediators as much as adjudicators.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In recent years, this role has actually become official.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Specially trained people preside over fairly informal sessions in an attempt to solve these sorts of nonviolent cases before they go to trial.  There has been a high success rate and we were pleased to participate when one of the judges suggested we try this before taking it any further through the system.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;The court mediator suggested that we first agree to a financial settlement, then work on any other areas after that.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Several sessions were held and it seemed to us that progress was being made.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We were getting very close to an agreement when the mission told us that the Field Chairman was no longer authorized to negotiate; only the house counsel for the mission could do that.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He wasn't doing it, so that ended that.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;The case continued to grind its way towards trial.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-3804674531380549809?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/3804674531380549809/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/09/negotiations-fail.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/3804674531380549809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/3804674531380549809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/09/negotiations-fail.html' title='Negotiations Fail'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-124453933708386606</id><published>2009-08-20T00:41:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-20T00:41:17.937-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Apples and Oranges</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;I want to direct your attention again to the &lt;a href="http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/american-example.html"&gt;large American church&lt;/a&gt; that resorted to threatening a law suit against a person when they found no other effective way to deal with him.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I admit to being impressed not only with their patience, but also with the effectiveness of their strategy.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It wouldn't make a very good initial approach of course.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But as a last resort, it seemed justifiable.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It was also successful for them, and that ought to count for something.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;I saw many parallels between their situation with their former Sunday School teacher, and the one I faced regarding my former employer.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I compared my apples with their apples, and they were basically the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;Consider:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The Sunday School teacher was defaming the Church and its leaders.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The mission was defaming me and my son.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The Church did everything they could to solve the problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;My son and I did everything we could to solve the problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The Sunday School teacher would not listen to the Church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The mission would not even talk to my son and me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The Church, as a last resort, communicated a threat to pursue legal action.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;My son and I, as a last resort, threatened legal action.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;So, I saw myself in much the same position as the Church, and the mission as being very much like the Sunday School teacher.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I expected similar outcomes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; color: black; font-family: "Angsana New","serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;Remember, once the Church threatened legal action, their problems were solved.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Somewhat overly optimistically, I envisioned the same in our case.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, I was so focused in on the apples, that I missed the oranges.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;That is, I overlooked any differences between the two situations.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There were many, all of them significant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The most obvious difference was that I was an individual &amp;ndash; more analogous to the Sunday School teacher than the Church &amp;ndash; and the mission was a &amp;quot;reputable Christian organization&amp;quot; &amp;ndash; more analogous to the Church than to the Sunday School teacher.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The Church embodied the reputation of all its members; it would have a great deal of credibility in any venue.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The mission, also, had built its reputation on the lives and work of its many missionaries; it would have much more credibility than I.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;Very few individuals have a reputation that can compare to &amp;quot;reputable Christian organizations&amp;quot; doing the Lord's work.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I don't think the Sunday School teacher did; I know I don't.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In this respect, I didn't even &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; an orange!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The Sunday School teacher had limited resources to fight a libel suit.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The Church, while not wealthy, certainly had more money than he did.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Like the Church, the mission had way more resources at its disposal than my son and I did.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In fact, we probably had less than the Sunday School teacher.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;When engaging in legal solutions, it is always wise to count the cost, since the side that can hold out the longest often wins.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I missed seeing this very important orange.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;The Sunday School teacher was perhaps&amp;nbsp;not the smartest man in the world, but he was smart enough to know when he was wrestling out of his class.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The mission sized up me and my son and saw lightweights trying to compete in a heavyweight contest.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I don't think they were impressed.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I admit, their oranges were more orange than mine!&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I just hadn't noticed it.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They had, though.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"&gt;When comparing apples with apples, things looked pretty promising.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Once the oranges were included, it's easy to understand why the mission was in no hurry to settle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-124453933708386606?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/124453933708386606/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/apples-and-oranges.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/124453933708386606'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/124453933708386606'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/apples-and-oranges.html' title='Apples and Oranges'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-5327818049567429359</id><published>2009-08-14T03:13:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T03:13:33.203-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Storm Begins</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;The mission organization did not respond to us until criminal libel charges were filed.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Their response was two-fold:&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;First, they got the word out that we were taking our brother (the mission organization) to court in violation of the prohibitions of I Corinthians 6.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Second, they asked us to engage in binding arbitration with them, in America &amp;ndash; even though the offense occurred in Thailand, against Thai law and in the Thai language.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;We would have been very happy to have the intervention and help of other concerned Christians.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, we were more than a little reluctant to drop charges, since without them the mission had not talked to us.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why give up the only leverage you have?&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;But, what really convinced me to reject binding arbitration was the section of the agreement that said the terms of arbitration were enforceable in a court of law in the State of Florida.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If either party did not fulfill their obligations under the terms of the agreement, court action could be taken and the party that &amp;quot;prevailed&amp;quot; would be granted damages.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Someone was going to have to &amp;quot;prevail&amp;quot;?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In court?&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;So, we would be agreeing not to go to court now, supposedly because we felt it violated the Scriptures.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;At the same time, in the same agreement, we would be agreeing to &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;do so later &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;if we weren't satisfied with how the other party performed!&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Well, we already weren't satisfied!&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why not cut to the chase and go ahead and pursue these charges in Thailand, where it would be convenient and less expensive?&amp;nbsp; The offense had happened in Thailand, in the Thai language.&amp;nbsp; Thai court would make more sense than an American court.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If other parties wanted to mediate an agreement in the meantime, that would be perfectly acceptable to us.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;The mission organization was no longer interested in any form of mediation, arbitration or intervention.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The only thing that they wanted to talk about now was binding arbitration.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Or, more specifically, our dropping charges.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This we would not agree to do, so an impasse was quickly reached.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;The passage in I Corinthians 6:1-8 seems pretty clear:&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Believers are not supposed to take disputes &amp;quot;to law&amp;quot; before the unbelievers.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why didn't we think this passage applied to us in our situation?&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;I would like to quote from an unfriendly witness, an anonymous person who has taken exception to our law suit in no uncertain terms.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He has called us bitter players, dirty players, &amp;quot;a piece of work&amp;quot; and a few other names.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He has made it clear that he is not on our side.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, read his thoughts on the applicability of this passage to our case:&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&amp;quot;I'm not one that believes this passage even applies to the situation at all. I think the probability is that the passage is instructing members of the same church that with respect to disputes between members of the same church, those disputes should be determined by that church. I don't think there is anyway two missionaries on the field who are not part of the same church could ever settle a dispute according to that passage because they would never be able to agree on which believers should settle the dispute (they are not part of the same church&amp;hellip;and [the mission] is not a church).&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/allen-long/#comment-542"&gt;http://ntmabuse.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/allen-long/#comment-542&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;More could be said, but that is a pretty&amp;nbsp;succinct summary of how we interpreted this passage, and how we applied it to our situation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This does not mean that we would not engage in any kind of talks with the other side in this dispute.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In fact, that is what we most desperately wanted.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But, our experience to date had shown us that the mission would not negotiate &amp;ndash; would not even talk &amp;ndash; when they held an advantage.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Now that they did not have the advantage, they were only interested in regaining it, not resolving the original offense.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;It looked to be a long, drawn out affair.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Little did we know how long, how drawn out!&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;   &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-5327818049567429359?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/5327818049567429359/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/storm-begins.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/5327818049567429359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/5327818049567429359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/storm-begins.html' title='The Storm Begins'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-5912807517351025742</id><published>2009-08-09T04:49:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-20T00:47:07.358-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='criminal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='missionary'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='libel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mission'/><title type='text'>A Good Plan Goes Awry</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;My life in Thailand began in late 1978 as a missionary with a reputable mission organization.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This organization had such a sterling reputation that most people did not even hold it against them that they let a guy like me in!&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;After twenty five years of working together, our family and the mission parted ways.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There were no legal, moral or doctrinal issues involved, but it still turned out to be a pretty unhappy parting.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Not that both sides weren't happy to part, but there were a number of bumps along the path of separation.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;My son and his family, who had joined us in the work here about a year before we resigned, were asked to stay with the mission organization, but work in a different place.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Instead, they also resigned and stayed here among the Yellow Leaf people.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;A year after our departure, the mission wrote a letter to a quasi-governmental organization and sent a copy of it to the Religious Affairs Department of the Royal Thai Government.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In this letter, they said things about me and my son that were uncomplimentary, untrue and could be proven so.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They ended their letter with the words, "So we are making this report in order that these things might be made known everywhere."&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For good measure, they sent a copy of the letter to me.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ouch.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I immediately wrote a letter to the mission and asked them to please retract their letter.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Failing that, I asked them to explain themselves.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Finally, I told them that saying untrue things like this to third parties would damage my reputation, make it difficult for me to make a living and/ or cause me to be held in reproach by other people.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That is the legal definition of libel in Thai law.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;They did not respond.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Unsure of what was going on and why, concerned lest our standing with the Royal Thai Government be jeopardized, and not knowing what was coming down the pipe next, my son and I sought legal counsel.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;"Nothing easier," said the Thai attorney.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"We write them a letter and tell them to retract their letter.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We'll say that failure to do so will result in our pressing criminal libel charges against them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It works every time; no one wants to end up in court."&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;It turned out that he was overly optimistic.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I'm not sure the mission wanted to end up in court, but they made no serious efforts to resolve the issue.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The time to file charges was about to expire and no progress had been made.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Reluctantly, we filed criminal libel charges and waited for the storm to hit.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;In Thailand, libel (defamation) is both a criminal and a civil offense.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, because it is not a violent crime, it is possible to withdraw the criminal charges at any point before a trial, provided both parties agree to do so.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Criminal charges are normally filed before civil charges, since the standard of proof is higher and no damages are awarded to the plaintiff.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Of course, once a criminal conviction has been won, it is  pretty much a matter of formality to win a civil suit and recover damages.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is even possible to win a civil suit after a criminal suit has failed, though this isn't attempted very often.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Filing criminal charges, believe it or not, is seen as a show of good will on the part of the plaintiff.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They have voluntarily subjected themselves to a higher standard of proof without any claim for losses.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To file a civil suit first, along with claims for damages, while perfectly legal, would look mean-spirited and vindictive.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Conviction for criminal libel in Thailand entails a fine and a jail sentence.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In practice, the jail sentence is rarely served, and never for a first offense.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is always suspended for the first conviction, and often for subsequent ones, depending on circumstances.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The fine is variable, again depending on the seriousness of the offense.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;So, while filing criminal libel charges sounds drastic, it is the preferred way to do things in Thailand, when negotiations have broken down.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Often, of course, the very act of filing these charges will lead to renewed negotiations.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;In our case, it led to the storm.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;     &lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Watch this space. . .         &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-5912807517351025742?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/5912807517351025742/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/good-plan-goes-awry.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/5912807517351025742'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/5912807517351025742'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/good-plan-goes-awry.html' title='A Good Plan Goes Awry'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-5364552520276461205</id><published>2009-08-06T04:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-06T20:52:39.787-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Santa Claus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Thailand'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sunday School'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='libel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christmas tree'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christmas'/><title type='text'>An American Example</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;A decade ago, in a city along the eastern coast of the US, or maybe along the western coast, there was a large and growing church.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;A Sunday School teacher at this church, with more of a reckless regard for honesty than discretion, was asked by one of his little charges about Santa Claus.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"There is no Santa Claus," he told the tyke.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"That's just make-believe."&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;The tyke, in fact the whole room full of tykes, were stunned.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Their parents were outraged.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The leadership was on the spot.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It didn't help things when the teacher began to complain about the pagan Christmas tree in the church.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;The teacher was relieved of his duties and his class assigned to others.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Unsatisfied, he began to write letters to members of the congregation, predicting the departure of the minister, making outlandish accusations about the minister's children, and just causing a general uproar.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It was taking an inordinate amount of the leadership's time just fending off his attacks.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;He was dismissed from the church, a drastic step in any congregation.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Undaunted, he stepped up his campaign of slurs and accusations.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He was, he claimed, ordained of God to do this; he was not subject to these men.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He was their spiritual superior.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;At wits end, the leaders got word to him that if the attacks continued, he could expect legal action.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Miraculously, he stopped.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He must have found something new to occupy himself and the church and its minister were left in peace.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I have been in contact with people from this church, including two of the leaders.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The leaders, who do not deny it, cannot remember any threats of legal action.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I think I would not be able to remember it, either.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In fact, there are many things that I am sure I do not remember.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But, anyone familiar with the former Sunday School teacher in question would know that nothing short of that would have dissuaded him from his appointed task.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He was like an pesky gnat; he just wouldn't go away.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;The church&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;got rid of that pesky gnat with their reputation intact.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;No charges, no trial, no paper trail, no problem.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I don't think this would be anyone's first choice of how to handle this sort of a problem.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I am sure it was not this church's first choice; it was their last resort.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It may seem like an overreaction to some, but it was only a threat; they did not have to carry it out.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Likely as not, they were as happy not to press charges as the offender was to avoid them.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;When I first heard this story, I was very ambivalent about it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As I considered what all was involved, however, I realized that the church had acted wisely, discretely and with an awful lot of patience.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;What do you think?&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-5364552520276461205?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/5364552520276461205/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/american-example.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/5364552520276461205'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/5364552520276461205'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/american-example.html' title='An American Example'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-6202046606195320001</id><published>2009-08-06T04:03:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-06T09:31:47.222-07:00</updated><title type='text'>On the Other Side of the Law</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I was being interviewed by a TV crew.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I kept mentioning the provincial governor by name, and they kept telling me not to do it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"If you say his name, we can't put it on the air," they remonstrated.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Just say, 'A governor of this province.'"&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;There had been some problems regarding our involvement with the Yellow Leaf people, and some parties with vested interests in keeping the Yellow Leaf poor and oppressed were pressuring the governor to pressure me.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He did.&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;He invited me out for lunch with a couple of other provincial officials.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I was glad to go; not often I get to dine with the upper crust!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Plus, I had some suggestions of what we could do to ameliorate things a bit.&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;So did he.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Before we even ordered our food, he said, "You're still a young man.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It would be a shame if something were to happen to you."&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Well, that is certainly a statement calculated to get your attention!&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Another official chimed in, "Yes, if you were to get shot, the Director General of the Police Department would come, the Minister of Interior would come – it would be a mess."&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I was not touched by the concern expressed!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I was furious.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Well, it might be good to make sure nothing happens to me then, mightn't it?" I replied.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I stood, bowed to the governor and left.&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;Now I was talking to the press.&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;"If we use his name, we will be in violation of the law," they explained.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"We could get in trouble.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But, if we don't use his name, there is no problem.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Don't they have libel laws in America?"&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I told him I didn't know what the libel laws were in America.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I mentioned that, generally speaking, Americans were used to saying whatever they liked about public servants.&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;"This isn't America," they gently reminded me.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I apologized and began using only his title.&lt;/p&gt;          &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;And, in the back of my mind, I filed away my second lesson on libel law in Thailand.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-6202046606195320001?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/6202046606195320001/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/on-other-side-of-law.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/6202046606195320001'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/6202046606195320001'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/on-other-side-of-law.html' title='On the Other Side of the Law'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-3938980992105823941</id><published>2009-08-06T03:40:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-06T03:40:40.499-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A First Time for Everything</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;My very first brush with libel law in Thailand was over before I even realized it had happened.&lt;span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;My family and I live and work in the jungles among a small group of people known as the Yellow Leaf. We are not very interesting, but the Yellow Leaf people are and they have often been featured in the press. Sometimes this coverage includes us.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;One time, the Yellow Leaf were featured in a large circulation magazine. All of the reporting and pictures were from other locations where they lived, not around our place. Still, the article made reference to me by name, and presented me in a very unflattering light.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;The article was brought to my attention by a third party. &amp;quot;I'm sorry,&amp;quot; they said, handing me a copy of the magazine. I read the article and was aghast.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;I wrote a letter to the magazine, pointing out the defects in their article and asking them to correct it. No answer.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;Next, I called the reporter. We talked for almost an hour! The reporter tried to tell me that I didn't understand Thai, that there was nothing offensive or untrue in the article. They even tried to convince me that I was presented very favorably. Finally, in exasperation, I said, &amp;quot;Well, we'll just see where the best lawyers are &amp;ndash; here or in Bangkok.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;The next day, I got a call from the editor/ publisher. &amp;quot;Why don't you write up what you want us to publish, and we'll put it in our next issue,&amp;quot; they suggested.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;I wrote a carefully worded, polite explanation and sent it to them. A little bit of smarminess managed to get into my letter, but they edited that out and published it in their next issue. I was satisfied; they were satisfied; no one got to find out where the best lawyers reside. Thankfully.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"&gt;Since then, they have even featured me and the Yellow Leaf in their magazine, and presented us in a very positive light. No hard feelings; these sorts of things happen and it is usually possible to resolve them amicably.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br/&gt;   &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-3938980992105823941?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/3938980992105823941/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/first-time-for-everything_06.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/3938980992105823941'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/3938980992105823941'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/first-time-for-everything_06.html' title='A First Time for Everything'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2859251876154994889.post-1033931601182583831</id><published>2009-08-06T02:27:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-06T02:32:44.119-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='law'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Thailand'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='libel'/><title type='text'>Just a word of introduction</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;I am not a lawyer.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In fact, my major interest in the law is staying on the good side of it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I don't even like getting stopped for speeding.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, if you're looking for technical details of a rather specialized aspect of the law in Thailand, you are probably going to be disappointed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;On the other hand, I've had some experiences that may interest you, and may even be informative in a broad sense of the term.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Some of my experiences have received more exposure than I would have preferred, and I am often asked ("challenged" would be a better word) about them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Rather than respond to every inquiry, I want to use this blog to answer the questions I am familiar with, as well as any that may come up as a result of it.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;My real name is Eugene Long, as shown on this blog.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;You will notice that I scrupulously avoid using any other names, be they names of individuals, companies, or corporations.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I even disguise most place names.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This blog is not about blasting anyone; it is about general information.&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;If you want to post comments, that would be welcome.&lt;span style=""&gt;  You may reveal your name or conceal it as you see fit.  &lt;/span&gt;Please avoid using others' names.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Except mine, of course.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;You are welcome to use my name!  You may even call me names!  But, no one else, please.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2859251876154994889-1033931601182583831?l=thailibel.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/feeds/1033931601182583831/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/just-word-of-introduction.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/1033931601182583831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2859251876154994889/posts/default/1033931601182583831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thailibel.blogspot.com/2009/08/just-word-of-introduction.html' title='Just a word of introduction'/><author><name>Eugene Long, just a regular guy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03020040317410994949</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
